Replacing an 80w CO2 laser tube

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Ian Bell
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I now have a new replacement 80w tube and almost finished a few small jobs before I can get round to actually replacing the tube.

I'm looking for a little safety advice before I start, how can I be certain that there is no residual current around before I "cut the red wire"

Is it sufficient to disconnect the 240v mains supply from the machine, how does any residual current disipate.

Safety first :D
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Using a well insulated screw driver while wearing eye protection carefully short the screw driver to the glass tube high voltage connection and the machine casing. Be sure YOU are not in contact with the machine casing while shorting.
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Dave Vigness
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Leave the machine powered down for at least half an hour would be my suggestion. Personally, I'd unplug it the night before, then change the tube in the morning.
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Ian Bell
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oooh not sure I fancy that Pete, and i'll be leaving the machine off for a few days after my last pieces are cut - cheers Dave.

surely theres a way to check with a meter to ground
Location: Bangor
Country: N. Ireland
Nickname: Ian
Laser Machine: Red/Blk Chinese import (Redsail clone ?)
Power: 80w
Bed Size: 500x700mm
Home: TR
Status: operational
RDWorks Version: V8.01.22
Windows Version: 10
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Home Position: TR
Control Software: RDWORKS
RDWorks Version: v8.01.18
Ruida Controller: RDC6442
Windows Version: Win 10
Accessories: roller rotary attachment

My process can be used to discharge the caps or to check the caps has lost their charge.
If you wait as Dave recommends there should be no charge... up I always short as a precaution....you could measure with a meter but that is effecti=ly the same as shorting to ground....I don’t think you care what the voltage may be ...just that it is not present.
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Ian Bell
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True Pete, ok thats the plan ... cheers
Location: Bangor
Country: N. Ireland
Nickname: Ian
Laser Machine: Red/Blk Chinese import (Redsail clone ?)
Power: 80w
Bed Size: 500x700mm
Home: TR
Status: operational
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Windows Version: 10
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Ian Bell
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Installed new tube, checked all water connections are good, no air trapped anywhere.

Did a few test pulses, beam is exiting the nozzle, not centred yet as I still have the realignment to do.

Took a wee video of the tube while pressing pulse, is this normal ? never actually looked before.

https://youtu.be/47bwZy4eL30
Location: Bangor
Country: N. Ireland
Nickname: Ian
Laser Machine: Red/Blk Chinese import (Redsail clone ?)
Power: 80w
Bed Size: 500x700mm
Home: TR
Status: operational
RDWorks Version: V8.01.22
Windows Version: 10
Dave Vigness
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Location: Kansas City - Rural
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Laser Machine Make or Type: Chine Red and Black
Laser Power: EF RF2 80W
Laser Bed Size: 20 x 26
Home Position: TR
Control Software: RDWORKS
RDWorks Version: 8.01.54
Ruida Controller: RDC6445
Windows Version: 7
Accessories: Power Switch for air assist / exhaust blower, Ma meter with switch for external digital, dual digital temp gauge, LED lights under gantry and and and.

Pics and a list here. https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... sp=sharing

Looks like low power preionizarion zone. Normal at low power, usually straightens out once you get above a certain point. Russ talks about it every so often and has one or two videos on that specifically.
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Ian Bell
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Phew - cheers Dave, I had the power set low for pulse test so sounds about right.

After I get the chance to do realignment i'll up the power and check it again
Location: Bangor
Country: N. Ireland
Nickname: Ian
Laser Machine: Red/Blk Chinese import (Redsail clone ?)
Power: 80w
Bed Size: 500x700mm
Home: TR
Status: operational
RDWorks Version: V8.01.22
Windows Version: 10
Dave Vigness
Posts: 526
Joined: Sun Dec 15, 2019
Location: Kansas City - Rural
Country: USA
Nickname: Dave
Laser Machine Make or Type: Chine Red and Black
Laser Power: EF RF2 80W
Laser Bed Size: 20 x 26
Home Position: TR
Control Software: RDWORKS
RDWorks Version: 8.01.54
Ruida Controller: RDC6445
Windows Version: 7
Accessories: Power Switch for air assist / exhaust blower, Ma meter with switch for external digital, dual digital temp gauge, LED lights under gantry and and and.

Pics and a list here. https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... sp=sharing

Every tube has a different threshold, so don't sweat the actual power percentage the beam finally straightens out at. I know Russ actually intentionally does some work right at the top end of the preionization zone
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