Laser on all the time
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John Hulme
- Posts: 19
- Joined: Fri May 31, 2019
- Location: West Midlands
- Country: United Kingdom
- Laser Machine Make or Type: Chinese type
- Laser Power: 50W
- Laser Bed Size: A3
- Home Position: TL
- RDWorks Version: Unsure
- Windows Version: 10
I have just purchased a second hand laser, it is the same model featured in the early RDWorks videos. I have installed a new tube, the problem I am having is the tube is firing constantly, hence lines all over the workpiece because the tube does not go off when it it not required to operate. I have the water pump connected to a power supply, not to the machine output (the plugs are different). The new tube came with wires already fitted so only needed taping, a strand of wire contacted the machine casing causing an arc, could I have destroyed the power supply. Any thoughts please. John
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Pete Cyr
- Posts: 1964
- Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2016
- Location: Suffolk Virginia
- Country: United States
- Laser Machine Make or Type: Boss 1630
- Laser Power: 100w
- Laser Bed Size: 16"x30"
- Home Position: TR
- Control Software: RDWORKS
- RDWorks Version: v8.01.18
- Ruida Controller: RDC6442
- Windows Version: Win 10
- Accessories: roller rotary attachment
could I have destroyed the power supply - unlikely.
When you start the machine and it itializes - is the laser producing an out put the cuts/engraves?
OR after you have started the sytem, completed intailazation and then send a file to the laser and run the file....does the laser stay on after starting the file non-stop? When doe the laser stop ....at the end of the file.....after you turn the machine off?
When you start the machine and it itializes - is the laser producing an out put the cuts/engraves?
OR after you have started the sytem, completed intailazation and then send a file to the laser and run the file....does the laser stay on after starting the file non-stop? When doe the laser stop ....at the end of the file.....after you turn the machine off?
Location - VA
Equipment - Boss Laser 1630
Power - 100W
Laser Bed Size - 16" x 30"
Home Position - TR
Full RDWorks Version - v8.01.18
First name - Pete
Equipment - Boss Laser 1630
Power - 100W
Laser Bed Size - 16" x 30"
Home Position - TR
Full RDWorks Version - v8.01.18
First name - Pete
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John Hulme
- Posts: 19
- Joined: Fri May 31, 2019
- Location: West Midlands
- Country: United Kingdom
- Laser Machine Make or Type: Chinese type
- Laser Power: 50W
- Laser Bed Size: A3
- Home Position: TL
- RDWorks Version: Unsure
- Windows Version: 10
Hi Pete, I initalise the laser the head goes to the start position. I turn the laser switch on to begin the operation. The laser only stops firing when I turn the laser switch off. I can not send a pulse because the laser is always on. Sorry if this sounds compicating.
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John Hulme
- Posts: 19
- Joined: Fri May 31, 2019
- Location: West Midlands
- Country: United Kingdom
- Laser Machine Make or Type: Chinese type
- Laser Power: 50W
- Laser Bed Size: A3
- Home Position: TL
- RDWorks Version: Unsure
- Windows Version: 10
Hi Pete, I initalise the laser the head goes to the start position. I turn the laser switch on to begin the operation. The laser only stops firing when I turn the laser switch off. I can not send a pulse because the laser is always on. Sorry if this sounds compicating.
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Pete Cyr
- Posts: 1964
- Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2016
- Location: Suffolk Virginia
- Country: United States
- Laser Machine Make or Type: Boss 1630
- Laser Power: 100w
- Laser Bed Size: 16"x30"
- Home Position: TR
- Control Software: RDWORKS
- RDWorks Version: v8.01.18
- Ruida Controller: RDC6442
- Windows Version: Win 10
- Accessories: roller rotary attachment
So - if I understand correct:
- power the machine on and intialize with no problems
- when you intiate operation of the laser to pulse ..it stays on
Did I capture the isssue above correctlyTrue or false
- power the machine on and intialize with no problems
- when you intiate operation of the laser to pulse ..it stays on
Did I capture the isssue above correctlyTrue or false
Location - VA
Equipment - Boss Laser 1630
Power - 100W
Laser Bed Size - 16" x 30"
Home Position - TR
Full RDWorks Version - v8.01.18
First name - Pete
Equipment - Boss Laser 1630
Power - 100W
Laser Bed Size - 16" x 30"
Home Position - TR
Full RDWorks Version - v8.01.18
First name - Pete
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Jeffrey Aley
- Posts: 388
- Joined: Fri Aug 11, 2017
- Location: Folsom, California
- Country: United States
- Laser Machine Make or Type: Kehui
- Laser Power: 50W
- Laser Bed Size: 500mmx300mm
- Home Position: TL
- RDWorks Version: 8.01.24
- Ruida Controller: RDC6442
- Windows Version: Win10 Enterprise
- Accessories: Spray bottle with water (for small fires)
Fire extinguisher (for big fires)
Hi Pete, since your Boss laser might be slightly different, let me point out how (my) Chinese Blue & White is wired.Pete Cyr wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 So - if I understand correct:
- power the machine on and intialize with no problems
- when you intiate operation of the laser to pulse ..it stays on
Did I capture the isssue above correctlyTrue or false
There's one switch that turns on the low-voltage power supply. This powers-up the RuiDa controller and the steppers, and therefore causes the machine to initialize (find home, etc.). I even use this mode when setting up my jobs and do the "Go Scale".
There's a second switch that turns on the high-voltage power supply. On my laser, the extraction fan is also hard-wired to this switch.
I believe the original poster is saying that when he turns on the HV power-supply, the laser is always on. It is not responding to the "laser on/off" signal that comes from the RuiDa controller. IIRC, this is a common failure mode for the HV power supply.
Regards,
-Jeff
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John Hulme
- Posts: 19
- Joined: Fri May 31, 2019
- Location: West Midlands
- Country: United Kingdom
- Laser Machine Make or Type: Chinese type
- Laser Power: 50W
- Laser Bed Size: A3
- Home Position: TL
- RDWorks Version: Unsure
- Windows Version: 10
Jeffery, this is correct. I turn on the laser control switch, then I turn on thelaser switch. The laser fire up immediately and sends the beam to the workpiece even though I have not started to run a file. Jeffery, do you think this is a power source problem. Surely the beam should not fire until the program file calls it to cut or engrave.
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Pete Cyr
- Posts: 1964
- Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2016
- Location: Suffolk Virginia
- Country: United States
- Laser Machine Make or Type: Boss 1630
- Laser Power: 100w
- Laser Bed Size: 16"x30"
- Home Position: TR
- Control Software: RDWORKS
- RDWorks Version: v8.01.18
- Ruida Controller: RDC6442
- Windows Version: Win 10
- Accessories: roller rotary attachment
Thanks Jeffery - you are correct mine is wired differently and I was ignorant of how his unit functions. I know something but not everything.
John - based upon Jeffery's feed back your power supply is probbably bad - but I doubt that occured as a function of the spark you cited earlier. I would suspect it was prexisitng condition that was not disclosed or at least not understood.
Not sure what they cost for your unit - I had to replace my HV Pwr Supply recently for a mere 600.00 - they were pretty proud of that piece of equipment in my view.
John - based upon Jeffery's feed back your power supply is probbably bad - but I doubt that occured as a function of the spark you cited earlier. I would suspect it was prexisitng condition that was not disclosed or at least not understood.
Not sure what they cost for your unit - I had to replace my HV Pwr Supply recently for a mere 600.00 - they were pretty proud of that piece of equipment in my view.
Location - VA
Equipment - Boss Laser 1630
Power - 100W
Laser Bed Size - 16" x 30"
Home Position - TR
Full RDWorks Version - v8.01.18
First name - Pete
Equipment - Boss Laser 1630
Power - 100W
Laser Bed Size - 16" x 30"
Home Position - TR
Full RDWorks Version - v8.01.18
First name - Pete
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John Hulme
- Posts: 19
- Joined: Fri May 31, 2019
- Location: West Midlands
- Country: United Kingdom
- Laser Machine Make or Type: Chinese type
- Laser Power: 50W
- Laser Bed Size: A3
- Home Position: TL
- RDWorks Version: Unsure
- Windows Version: 10
Thanks gentlemenn, the power unit is not very expencive, about £80. I will purchase one and let you know how I get on. Once again, many thanks.
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Jeffrey Aley
- Posts: 388
- Joined: Fri Aug 11, 2017
- Location: Folsom, California
- Country: United States
- Laser Machine Make or Type: Kehui
- Laser Power: 50W
- Laser Bed Size: 500mmx300mm
- Home Position: TL
- RDWorks Version: 8.01.24
- Ruida Controller: RDC6442
- Windows Version: Win10 Enterprise
- Accessories: Spray bottle with water (for small fires)
Fire extinguisher (for big fires)
Anecdotal evidence (in other words, not my personal experience) shows that some of the cheaper HV power supplies have a very slow slew rate. In plain English, that means that there's a noticeable delay between when the controller says, "turn on the beam" to when the beam is actually on.John Hulme wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 Thanks gentlemenn, the power unit is not very expencive, about £80. I will purchase one and let you know how I get on. Once again, many thanks.
Based on this, my advice would be to avoid the cheapest-priced supplies and get something in the middle of the price-range.
One person who I trust has said that the MY-JG 50 is a very poor-quality power-supply, and recommends the HY-T 60 instead.
Good luck!
-Jeff
