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Philipp Pap
Posts: 80
Joined: Wed Mar 15, 2017
Location: Innsbruck
Country: Austria
Laser Machine Make or Type: rdc6445
Laser Power: 55W
Laser Bed Size: 50x30cm
Home Position: TL
Control Software: LIGHTBURN
RDWorks Version: lightburn
Ruida Controller: RDC6445
Windows Version: 10

Yesterday I tested my new, self made nail bed. Which consists of a steel plate and 40mm long screws, which are glued to a magnet. It worked very fine for acrylic but when I tried to cut corrugated cardboard carton it ignited. Luckily (ok, I'm always watching the laser) I immediately saw it and pressed "stop" on the controller, took out the carton and went to the sink.

So the lessons to be learned :

1. Don't cut this kind of carton on a nail bed (fumes ignite easily).

2. Always watch your laser, ALWAYS.

3. Have some water at hand, I now have an empty windows cleaner spray bottle filled with water. SECONDS COUNT!!! Until you have to run to the sink, find a pot, have it filled with water, run back, everything could be havoc.

4. Have a fire extinguisher at hand (which I have, just not the expensive one, so before I use it I have to disconnect the machine from power, takes expansive seconds!).

5. Shame on me, but could happen to everyone, so this is the reason for this post.

Be save!

Edit: Any tips or good advice, please be welcome to share!
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Ian Bell
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Joined: Sat Nov 19, 2016
Location: Bangor, N. Ireland

I watched a russ sadler video recently, it recommended using dot mode for cutting corrugated cardboard as it uses pulses rather than a continuous cut.
Also some good info concerning appropriate power levels.

I recently did a trial using dot mode, it created a perforation type cut, which suited the cardboard well, worth a look into
Location: Bangor
Country: N. Ireland
Nickname: Ian
Laser Machine: Red/Blk Chinese import (Redsail clone ?)
Power: 80w
Bed Size: 500x700mm
Home: TR
Status: operational
RDWorks Version: V8.01.22
Windows Version: 10
Philipp Pap
Posts: 80
Joined: Wed Mar 15, 2017
Location: Innsbruck
Country: Austria
Laser Machine Make or Type: rdc6445
Laser Power: 55W
Laser Bed Size: 50x30cm
Home Position: TL
Control Software: LIGHTBURN
RDWorks Version: lightburn
Ruida Controller: RDC6445
Windows Version: 10

Murphy's law: "If you have a fire extinguisher, water at hand AND watch out, nothing will ever happen ...."

Have to look out for the video, I thought I saw them all...
PS: Thanks for all your videos, Russ!!!!!!
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sebastien laforet
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Joined: Wed Sep 07, 2016
Location: Lyon
Country: France
Laser Machine Make or Type: bodor BCL0605MU
Laser Power: 100W
Laser Bed Size: 60*50cm
Home Position: TR
RDWorks Version: 8.01.19
Windows Version: 7

Philipp Pap wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2019 Murphy's law: "If you have a fire extinguisher, water at hand AND watch out, nothing will ever happen ...."
i'm totally fine to have an extinguisher that i will never need to use against a fire!!!

same for the glasses.. you will never have a stray beam in the eye if you care to wear glasses (especially when aligning mirrors)
Sébastien Laforet
machine : Bodor BCL-0605 (60x50) with 100W laser with TR origin.
Live in France
Primarily works laser for my wife (school teacher, so lots of boxes, letters, puzzles, ...) and miniature scenery (32mm scale : warmachine, infinity)
Jeffrey Aley
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Joined: Fri Aug 11, 2017
Location: Folsom, California
Country: United States
Laser Machine Make or Type: Kehui
Laser Power: 50W
Laser Bed Size: 500mmx300mm
Home Position: TL
RDWorks Version: 8.01.24
Ruida Controller: RDC6442
Windows Version: Win10 Enterprise
Accessories: Spray bottle with water (for small fires)
Fire extinguisher (for big fires)

Philipp Pap wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2019
Have to look out for the video, I thought I saw them all...
PS: Thanks for all your videos, Russ!!!!!!
The video on cutting cardboard is (I think) part of his Thinklaser series (not RDWorks Learning Lab series).
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Chris Low
Posts: 2
Joined: Tue Sep 24, 2019
Location: San Diego, CA
Country: USA
Nickname: Chris
Laser Machine Make or Type: Boss LS-2440
Laser Power: 100W
Laser Bed Size: 24" X 36"
Home Position: TR
RDWorks Version: 8.01.28
Windows Version: 10 Pro
Accessories: chiller, exhaust fan (not recirculating), Solidworks, about 100 teenage minions to do my bidding.....

Warning: new laser user, this may be a Noob question (please be gentle with me!)

In case of fire - I would REALLY like to move the laser head out of the way before I spray a fire with water or a fire extinguisher.

Is there any easy was to do this?
How can I stop the program that is running, and send the head to a pre-determined "home" position? (hitting the emergency STOP button would prevent me from doing this, correct?)

Chris
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fred ungewitter
Posts: 50
Joined: Tue Aug 16, 2016
Location: East Central FL, USA
Country: USA
Nickname: fred
Laser Machine Make or Type: Redsail Clone
Laser Power: 60W
Laser Bed Size: 500 x 700
Home Position: TR
RDWorks Version: 8.01.18
Windows Version: Windows 7
Accessories: Chuck style rotary, 30 ma meter, LightObjects CW5000 chiller, muffin fan anti-condensate blower, LightBurn software

the e-stop will disconnect power to almost everything on/in the laser, eliminating the possibility of moving the head. Hitting the pause button, then the movement arrows will take an excessive amount of time, in my opinion.

Consider to purchase a gaseous extinguisher rather than a powder type. Halon is no longer available, but halotron is apparently a suitable (expensive) replacement that leaves no residue.

I'd hesitate to use water inside the laser cabinet. Too many high voltage locations and also plenty of steel to rust.

I have an antique CO2 extinguisher that was rescued from trash pickup. It still holds pressure and emits flame smothering gas when triggered, but probably won't pass hydrostatic testing to be refilled when/if emptied. Darn thing weighs a ton, but I figure the adrenaline will compensate for my lack of weight-lifting ability if ever needed.
fred

Redsail clone 60w 700 x 500 REAL 60w Puri tube
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