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Martín Lázaro
Posts: 26
Joined: Mon Aug 01, 2016
Location: Olavarria
Country: Argentina
Laser Machine Make or Type: Goldenlaser 2 fixed heads retrofited (6442s)
Laser Power: 80w + 50w
Laser Bed Size: 1300*600mm
Home Position: TL
RDWorks Version: 8.01.23
Windows Version: w7 64bits
Accessories: rotary chuck
wireless panel

I usually cut printed photos with designs, to which I then add mdf as a support.
Without a vision system controller, I have found the method of marking opposite vertices quite effective. But cumbersome. It implies registering photo by photo because in my case the margin should be the minimum possible. 1 mm is acceptable.
I have seen many different systems, including Ruida's projector and just now I discover the camera in lightburn! but camera and license is an expensive investment in these places so I ask the forum: has anyone had any experience regarding the work that I mention with lightburn? Is the precision I mention possible? There is nothing left of the lightburn thread in the forum ...
Thanks
Martín.-
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Gene Uselman
Posts: 2180
Joined: Thu Jul 07, 2016
Location: Suburban Minneapolis, Minnesota, US
Country: USA
Nickname: Gene
Laser Machine Make or Type: QC
Laser Power: 130W
Laser Bed Size: 900x1300
Home Position: TR
Control Software: LIGHTBURN
RDWorks Version: RDw .19 & Lightburn
LightBurn Version: Latest
Ruida Controller: RDC6442
Windows Version: Win 10 Pro
Accessories: I have a combining lenses, pin tables [homebuilt], honeycomb tables , wireless remote, Modifed Ultimate Air Assist, home built non-powered rotary device, PrusaMK4 and Mini Prusa printers.

Almost all the discussion has moved to the Lightburn forum- https://forum.lightburnsoftware.com/

I can't help on your question unfortunately.
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sebastien laforet
Posts: 143
Joined: Wed Sep 07, 2016
Location: Lyon
Country: France
Laser Machine Make or Type: bodor BCL0605MU
Laser Power: 100W
Laser Bed Size: 60*50cm
Home Position: TR
RDWorks Version: 8.01.19
Windows Version: 7

lightburn is free for 30 days so you can test. you can even ask for more time if needed, they are open on this subject and can extend the licence.

a basic webcam is sufficient to test. if correctly calibrated, it seems very possible to obtain sub-millimeter precision (provided the camera is well placed and sufficient resolution)

a very basic 720p camera has a definition of 1pixel / mm on a 720mm bed.
Sébastien Laforet
machine : Bodor BCL-0605 (60x50) with 100W laser with TR origin.
Live in France
Primarily works laser for my wife (school teacher, so lots of boxes, letters, puzzles, ...) and miniature scenery (32mm scale : warmachine, infinity)
Doug Fisher
Posts: 206
Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2016
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Country: USA
Laser Machine Make or Type: Ke Hui KH-7050
Laser Power: 80W EFR F2
Laser Bed Size: 700x500
Home Position: TR
Control Software: LIGHTBURN
RDWorks Version: v8.01.18 & 8.01.33
Ruida Controller: RDC6442
Windows Version: 10
Accessories: Ruida RDC6442G EC controller, 2" lens, S&A CW5000 chiller, chuck type of rotary attachment, Russ' DoHickey (sp?), mA meter, a growing collection of tools and oddities to keep it running!

I really recommend you spend some time on the lightburn forum searching out the many camera threads and reading them because there are various factors that can affects how well a camera will work on your system.
Martín Lázaro
Posts: 26
Joined: Mon Aug 01, 2016
Location: Olavarria
Country: Argentina
Laser Machine Make or Type: Goldenlaser 2 fixed heads retrofited (6442s)
Laser Power: 80w + 50w
Laser Bed Size: 1300*600mm
Home Position: TL
RDWorks Version: 8.01.23
Windows Version: w7 64bits
Accessories: rotary chuck
wireless panel

Yes Gene, I had already read everything I found but no similar experience.

Yes Sebastian, it was my second step, getting an acceptable webcam and testing, achieving sub millimeter accuracy would be excellent. I make sandwich materials for industrial equipment and it would be a step forward

Yes, Doug, I had already read the forum of lightburn and personal pages, as well as videos. I found several important facts and I could watch videos to get an idea, but no similar experience to know directly from the mouth of another. There is nothing left to do tests

Thank you all
Martin.-
Doug Fisher
Posts: 206
Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2016
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Country: USA
Laser Machine Make or Type: Ke Hui KH-7050
Laser Power: 80W EFR F2
Laser Bed Size: 700x500
Home Position: TR
Control Software: LIGHTBURN
RDWorks Version: v8.01.18 & 8.01.33
Ruida Controller: RDC6442
Windows Version: 10
Accessories: Ruida RDC6442G EC controller, 2" lens, S&A CW5000 chiller, chuck type of rotary attachment, Russ' DoHickey (sp?), mA meter, a growing collection of tools and oddities to keep it running!

I think Oz just received some 8 mp cameras in stock. Definitely ask for one of those if you buy from Lightburn because I find the 5 mp lacking if I need to zoom/enlarge the image at all.

Careful calibration and having a system that is repeatable are both key things. If you mount to the lid of your scanner, the lid must not wobble and stop in the exact same spot each time you open it. I found my system was more accurate by a few mm in certain areas of the bed of the laser than others and I am guessing that might be corrected by another calibration attempt.
Nigel Conroy
Posts: 1
Joined: Thu Aug 25, 2016
Location: Boston

I have found my system on my 50watt china blue machine to be more accurate then on my black and red 60 watt machine with a bigger bed. I think it is down to the focus of the camera that was needed for the larger bed not being as accurate as the focus on the smaller bed size.
The accuracy is very good if you calibrate it and use it correctly.
50 Watt Machine 500*300 TL
Motorized bed
Boston
Nigel Conroy
Steve Strassburg
Posts: 30
Joined: Sat Jun 29, 2019
Location: Port Orchard, WA
Country: United States
Laser Machine Make or Type: Laguna PL12/20
Laser Power: 40w
Laser Bed Size: 12" x 20"
Home Position: TL
RDWorks Version: 8.01.26
Windows Version: Windows 10

I have Lightburn and the Lightburn camera. And I think it was the best investment I have made so far. For example. I have some 30mm Redheart disks that I didn't want to waste. So, I put them in the laser and hit update overlay. I then put a 25 mm x 27.2 mm earring in the middle of it and cut them. And it hit the disks almost dead center. I will not go without this camera again. It will make it so easy to use waste wood. And if you would like a demo of the camera: https://youtu.be/Z4TaZUkvDbM
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Gene Uselman
Posts: 2180
Joined: Thu Jul 07, 2016
Location: Suburban Minneapolis, Minnesota, US
Country: USA
Nickname: Gene
Laser Machine Make or Type: QC
Laser Power: 130W
Laser Bed Size: 900x1300
Home Position: TR
Control Software: LIGHTBURN
RDWorks Version: RDw .19 & Lightburn
LightBurn Version: Latest
Ruida Controller: RDC6442
Windows Version: Win 10 Pro
Accessories: I have a combining lenses, pin tables [homebuilt], honeycomb tables , wireless remote, Modifed Ultimate Air Assist, home built non-powered rotary device, PrusaMK4 and Mini Prusa printers.

That is a great endorsement for the camera- note to self, get off your duff and learn LB. Thanks Gene
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Steve Strassburg
Posts: 30
Joined: Sat Jun 29, 2019
Location: Port Orchard, WA
Country: United States
Laser Machine Make or Type: Laguna PL12/20
Laser Power: 40w
Laser Bed Size: 12" x 20"
Home Position: TL
RDWorks Version: 8.01.26
Windows Version: Windows 10

Well, it wasn't intended as an endorsement for LB, but ok. :D I really like LB, it is so much more polished than RDW. And the developer is active in their forums. And, there isn't really much of a learning curve. Very similar to RDW in many ways.
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