Chiller Doubt

Hardware settings, adjustments and fixes and other hardware discussion. This includes the "doHICky" Laser Power measurement system by Russ.
Fernando Moreira
Posts: 25
Joined: Mon May 11, 2020
Location: Lisboa
Country: Portugal
Nickname: FMoreira
Laser Machine Make or Type: Red & Black Chinese
Laser Power: 100W
Laser Bed Size: 700*500
Home Position: TR
RDWorks Version: 8.01.10
Ruida Controller: RDC6442
Windows Version: 10
Accessories: S&A CW-5200 Chiller

Hi guys,

I have a Chinese red and black 100W, with a CW-5200 S&A Chiller. I have not change any settings on the chiller, and the water temperature goes from around 20 to 26 degrees Celsius (Centigrades) do you guys think it is ok, or should I change some chiller parameters?

I have one temperature sensor and display, do you think I can put it on the outside of the laser tube, with some tape, just to check the tube temperature?

Thank you for your support :)
Pete Cyr
Posts: 1964
Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2016
Location: Suffolk Virginia
Country: United States
Laser Machine Make or Type: Boss 1630
Laser Power: 100w
Laser Bed Size: 16"x30"
Home Position: TR
Control Software: RDWORKS
RDWorks Version: v8.01.18
Ruida Controller: RDC6442
Windows Version: Win 10
Accessories: roller rotary attachment

I would tweak the setting a bit,.

Glass laser tubes function optimaly at 15-20c water temp.
If you run at 23c your tube will not die tomorrow, but you may lower the expected life time by a couple of weeks or month.

To achive long life and get the best performance over the lifetime, keep temperature around 20c.
Whats happens when the temperature is too high the regenerative gas is harder to regenerate inside the tube which lowers the power output over time.
Location - VA
Equipment - Boss Laser 1630
Power - 100W
Laser Bed Size - 16" x 30"
Home Position - TR
Full RDWorks Version - v8.01.18
First name - Pete
Fernando Moreira
Posts: 25
Joined: Mon May 11, 2020
Location: Lisboa
Country: Portugal
Nickname: FMoreira
Laser Machine Make or Type: Red & Black Chinese
Laser Power: 100W
Laser Bed Size: 700*500
Home Position: TR
RDWorks Version: 8.01.10
Ruida Controller: RDC6442
Windows Version: 10
Accessories: S&A CW-5200 Chiller

Hi Pete,

Thank you for your reply. I will try to figure out what the parameters to change and how to... ;)
Pete Cyr
Posts: 1964
Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2016
Location: Suffolk Virginia
Country: United States
Laser Machine Make or Type: Boss 1630
Laser Power: 100w
Laser Bed Size: 16"x30"
Home Position: TR
Control Software: RDWORKS
RDWorks Version: v8.01.18
Ruida Controller: RDC6442
Windows Version: Win 10
Accessories: roller rotary attachment

Location - VA
Equipment - Boss Laser 1630
Power - 100W
Laser Bed Size - 16" x 30"
Home Position - TR
Full RDWorks Version - v8.01.18
First name - Pete
Doug Fisher
Posts: 206
Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2016
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Country: USA
Laser Machine Make or Type: Ke Hui KH-7050
Laser Power: 80W EFR F2
Laser Bed Size: 700x500
Home Position: TR
Control Software: LIGHTBURN
RDWorks Version: v8.01.18 & 8.01.33
Ruida Controller: RDC6442
Windows Version: 10
Accessories: Ruida RDC6442G EC controller, 2" lens, S&A CW5000 chiller, chuck type of rotary attachment, Russ' DoHickey (sp?), mA meter, a growing collection of tools and oddities to keep it running!

If you haven't changed any parameters, oddly, most chillers by default are set to maintain a temperature relative to the room's temperature. You need to change the settings so chiller maintains a specific actual temperature all the time. 18C is a good one for most tubes.
Robert Komada
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Location: San Francisco
Country: USA
Laser Machine Make or Type: Shenhui GH-G350
Laser Power: "50W"
Laser Bed Size: 500x300mm
Home Position: TL
RDWorks Version: 8.0.24
Windows Version: 10
Accessories: Lightburn software.

I believe the reason the chiller temperature is set relative to ambient is to prevent condensation from forming on the laser tube if the water temperature is significantly lower than ambient.
"50W" eBay SH-G350 500x300mm laser
RDWorks 8.01.24/LightBurn
Robert from San Francisco, CA
Fernando Moreira
Posts: 25
Joined: Mon May 11, 2020
Location: Lisboa
Country: Portugal
Nickname: FMoreira
Laser Machine Make or Type: Red & Black Chinese
Laser Power: 100W
Laser Bed Size: 700*500
Home Position: TR
RDWorks Version: 8.01.10
Ruida Controller: RDC6442
Windows Version: 10
Accessories: S&A CW-5200 Chiller

The minimum value for the "allowed highest water temperature" is 20C.
I have set the values for:
"allowed highest water temperature" = 20C
"allowed lowest water temperature" = 15C

On my shop, the temperature never goes bellow 15 or 16C on the winter, on summer it can goes up to around 26 or 28C.

Thank you for you help.
Doug Fisher
Posts: 206
Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2016
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Country: USA
Laser Machine Make or Type: Ke Hui KH-7050
Laser Power: 80W EFR F2
Laser Bed Size: 700x500
Home Position: TR
Control Software: LIGHTBURN
RDWorks Version: v8.01.18 & 8.01.33
Ruida Controller: RDC6442
Windows Version: 10
Accessories: Ruida RDC6442G EC controller, 2" lens, S&A CW5000 chiller, chuck type of rotary attachment, Russ' DoHickey (sp?), mA meter, a growing collection of tools and oddities to keep it running!

>>I have set the values for:
"allowed highest water temperature" = 20C
"allowed lowest water temperature" = 15C<<

Your chiller can hold a much tighter temp range. Tube output can be affected by temps so if you want to eliminate a potential variable you could set a tighter temperature range.
Fernando Moreira
Posts: 25
Joined: Mon May 11, 2020
Location: Lisboa
Country: Portugal
Nickname: FMoreira
Laser Machine Make or Type: Red & Black Chinese
Laser Power: 100W
Laser Bed Size: 700*500
Home Position: TR
RDWorks Version: 8.01.10
Ruida Controller: RDC6442
Windows Version: 10
Accessories: S&A CW-5200 Chiller

Thank you for your reply.
Doug Fisher wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020
Your chiller can hold a much tighter temp range. Tube output can be affected by temps so if you want to eliminate a potential variable you could set a tighter temperature range.

So, what range you think I should set? 18/20? 20/20?
Doug Fisher
Posts: 206
Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2016
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Country: USA
Laser Machine Make or Type: Ke Hui KH-7050
Laser Power: 80W EFR F2
Laser Bed Size: 700x500
Home Position: TR
Control Software: LIGHTBURN
RDWorks Version: v8.01.18 & 8.01.33
Ruida Controller: RDC6442
Windows Version: 10
Accessories: Ruida RDC6442G EC controller, 2" lens, S&A CW5000 chiller, chuck type of rotary attachment, Russ' DoHickey (sp?), mA meter, a growing collection of tools and oddities to keep it running!

FWIW, I set mine either 17/18 or 18/19 (not at the laser, so I can't confirm). Maybe it is a bit of overkill but the chiller has no problem keeping it in that range and I want one less variable affecting my cutting power.
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