Air assist - shop air

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Ian Bell
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Location: Bangor, N. Ireland

Pete Cyr wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 The ultimate air setup is good but a bit overly complex for my needs………I am ok with operating a 90deg ball valve to port air to the laser and turning a regulator a 1/4 turn up or down to adjust air…way simpler setup.

I use 10-12psi to cut and 4-5psi to scan. I do not adjust the throttle valve on the laser head….I only adjust the regulator.
The air header in my shop is pressurized all the time…..the compressor is on a timer , off at 2200, on at 0800.
Thanks Pete, your information is spot on. Looks like that's what i'll do then, find a handy spot to position the regulator at/on the machine so I can operate easily.

Timer also a good idea, my compressor has been left on overnight a few times now, or I might just hook it up to one of the wifi sockets to use with "Alexa"
Location: Bangor
Country: N. Ireland
Nickname: Ian
Laser Machine: Red/Blk Chinese import (Redsail clone ?)
Power: 80w
Bed Size: 500x700mm
Home: TR
Status: operational
RDWorks Version: V8.01.22
Windows Version: 10
Pete Cyr
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Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2016
Location: Suffolk Virginia
Country: United States
Laser Machine Make or Type: Boss 1630
Laser Power: 100w
Laser Bed Size: 16"x30"
Home Position: TR
Control Software: RDWORKS
RDWorks Version: v8.01.18
Ruida Controller: RDC6442
Windows Version: Win 10
Accessories: roller rotary attachment

Glad to be able to offer a useful thought now and then
Location - VA
Equipment - Boss Laser 1630
Power - 100W
Laser Bed Size - 16" x 30"
Home Position - TR
Full RDWorks Version - v8.01.18
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Ian Bell
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Location: Bangor, N. Ireland

Hi Pete,

I'm thinking of opting for two separate regs, one for engraving one for cutting, i'd like to feed into a switch type valve, simply left or right supply to a single output, does a module exist, possibly to a 6mm plastic pipe.
Location: Bangor
Country: N. Ireland
Nickname: Ian
Laser Machine: Red/Blk Chinese import (Redsail clone ?)
Power: 80w
Bed Size: 500x700mm
Home: TR
Status: operational
RDWorks Version: V8.01.22
Windows Version: 10
Pete Cyr
Posts: 1964
Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2016
Location: Suffolk Virginia
Country: United States
Laser Machine Make or Type: Boss 1630
Laser Power: 100w
Laser Bed Size: 16"x30"
Home Position: TR
Control Software: RDWORKS
RDWorks Version: v8.01.18
Ruida Controller: RDC6442
Windows Version: Win 10
Accessories: roller rotary attachment

https://www.amazon.com/Position-Pneumat ... ial&sr=1-2


If you have 2 different air sources - this valve will shift to port one or the other - pwr on port a, pwr off port b
Location - VA
Equipment - Boss Laser 1630
Power - 100W
Laser Bed Size - 16" x 30"
Home Position - TR
Full RDWorks Version - v8.01.18
First name - Pete
Chris Reed
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Location: Adelaide
Country: Australia
Nickname: Kyokisan1
Laser Machine Make or Type: ChinaCNCZone SL1060
Laser Power: 100w
Laser Bed Size: 1000 x 600
Home Position: TR
Control Software: RDWORKS
RDWorks Version: v8.01.40
Ruida Controller: RDC6445
Windows Version: 10 Pro
Accessories: Chuck type Rotary Axis
Cloudray Type 'E' Laser Head set & Spare Insert Tubes for 38.1, 50, 63.8 & 101.6 F.L lenses
Cloudray Red Spot Beam Combiner
Autofocus
Additional 'Z' Axis Limit (Bed Lower Limit)

Hi Ian, whatever you do, DO NOT use lubricated air through the cutting head on your laser.
Tee off with a separate filter / regulator before your existing filter / lube / reg unit and put a simple on/ off inline tap to isolate the new supply from the receiver.
High velocity particulates from the compressed air supply will damage your laser head so a filtered supply is a must, but oiled air will destroy the head and cause no end of grief in the cut itself - You would in fact be putting oil into the laser beam and I’m sure you understand why that is not optimal.
Hope this helps.
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Ian Bell
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Pete Cyr wrote: Fri Aug 27, 2021 https://www.amazon.com/Position-Pneumat ... ial&sr=1-2


If you have 2 different air sources - this valve will shift to port one or the other - pwr on port a, pwr off port b
That looks just the ticket, cheers Pete
Location: Bangor
Country: N. Ireland
Nickname: Ian
Laser Machine: Red/Blk Chinese import (Redsail clone ?)
Power: 80w
Bed Size: 500x700mm
Home: TR
Status: operational
RDWorks Version: V8.01.22
Windows Version: 10
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Ian Bell
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Chris Reed wrote: Fri Aug 27, 2021 Hi Ian, whatever you do, DO NOT use lubricated air through the cutting head on your laser.
Tee off with a separate filter / regulator before your existing filter / lube / reg unit and put a simple on/ off inline tap to isolate the new supply from the receiver.
High velocity particulates from the compressed air supply will damage your laser head so a filtered supply is a must, but oiled air will destroy the head and cause no end of grief in the cut itself - You would in fact be putting oil into the laser beam and I’m sure you understand why that is not optimal.
Hope this helps.
Thanks Chris, I plan to add a moisture filter close to the compressor, run the feed to a Tee, one to the laser, the other to the CNC, i'll then add a lubricator after the cnc section, for bench tools use.

It's great to have so much valuable advice on the forum - cheers
Location: Bangor
Country: N. Ireland
Nickname: Ian
Laser Machine: Red/Blk Chinese import (Redsail clone ?)
Power: 80w
Bed Size: 500x700mm
Home: TR
Status: operational
RDWorks Version: V8.01.22
Windows Version: 10
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Ian Bell
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Location: Bangor, N. Ireland

I eventually got round to providing compressor air supply to the laser, 1st effort was a great difference, the cuts appeared cleaner and through with slightly less power. I simply adjust the pressure flow at the nozzle.

But after a short while I noticed cuts weren't breaking through, with a wee bit of investigation I worked out the problem was due to moisture in the air supply. I have a regulator and water trap, but the psi rate fluctutates and I guess subsequently the higher pressure lets the water through.

At this time the air flow from the compressor is teed off before the laser, and the regulator and water trap are inline from there. The unregulated line goes to an air blow for my CNC.

I'm thinking of a few changes:

Place a water trap closer to the compressor
get a better regulator for near the laser, possibly with another water trap
make a diy dessicator filter and place inline after the regulator/trap to the laser.

The dessicator filter contains colour changing media so I know when the beads need reconditioned.

I'd welcome any advice.
Location: Bangor
Country: N. Ireland
Nickname: Ian
Laser Machine: Red/Blk Chinese import (Redsail clone ?)
Power: 80w
Bed Size: 500x700mm
Home: TR
Status: operational
RDWorks Version: V8.01.22
Windows Version: 10
Pete Cyr
Posts: 1964
Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2016
Location: Suffolk Virginia
Country: United States
Laser Machine Make or Type: Boss 1630
Laser Power: 100w
Laser Bed Size: 16"x30"
Home Position: TR
Control Software: RDWORKS
RDWorks Version: v8.01.18
Ruida Controller: RDC6442
Windows Version: Win 10
Accessories: roller rotary attachment

https://www.amazon.com/COMPRESSED-PARTI ... deae8f9840

This is what I use - it is mounted 2' from the unit via a 5' hose.
Location - VA
Equipment - Boss Laser 1630
Power - 100W
Laser Bed Size - 16" x 30"
Home Position - TR
Full RDWorks Version - v8.01.18
First name - Pete
Dave Vigness
Posts: 526
Joined: Sun Dec 15, 2019
Location: Kansas City - Rural
Country: USA
Nickname: Dave
Laser Machine Make or Type: Chine Red and Black
Laser Power: EF RF2 80W
Laser Bed Size: 20 x 26
Home Position: TR
Control Software: RDWORKS
RDWorks Version: 8.01.54
Ruida Controller: RDC6445
Windows Version: 7
Accessories: Power Switch for air assist / exhaust blower, Ma meter with switch for external digital, dual digital temp gauge, LED lights under gantry and and and.

Pics and a list here. https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... sp=sharing

Mine came from a set I got for the shop a long time ago and never used. A receiver / dryer, a regulator, and an oiler. I just took the receiver / dryer off and used it by itself. It's rated for use with paint sprayers, it seems to work well with my laser.
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