Tube replacement
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				Josh Creswell
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I am getting close to needing a new tube, been running on mine over 2 years.  Tried cutting some mirrored acrylic tonight and couldn't get through it on the far right side of it even going over it twice. I am going to clean my mirrors and lens tomorrow, see if that helps but I'm sure it's time. Where is the best place to buy a replacement from? Do I need to buy a new power supply at the same time? Thanks
            
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
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			60w Red and Black Chinese Laser
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Flatbed rotary
RD V8.01.18
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				Jeffrey Aley
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Tube failure (or degradation) should be consistent over the entire cutting bed. If you can cut okay on the left side, but not on the right side, then you probably have an alignment issue.Josh Creswell wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 I am getting close to needing a new tube, been running on mine over 2 years. Tried cutting some mirrored acrylic tonight and couldn't get through it on the far right side of it even going over it twice. I am going to clean my mirrors and lens tomorrow, see if that helps but I'm sure it's time. Where is the best place to buy a replacement from? Do I need to buy a new power supply at the same time? Thanks
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				Josh Creswell
- Posts: 20
- Joined: Sat Jan 21, 2017
- Location: Lebanon TN
- Country: USA
- Laser Machine Make or Type: Red and Black Chinese Laser
- Laser Power: 60w
- Laser Bed Size: 700mmx500mm
- Home Position: TR
- RDWorks Version: V8.01.18
- Windows Version: 7
I am going to check that as well, but like I said I am sure it's about time to change the tube.Jeffrey Aley wrote: Fri Apr 05, 2019Tube failure (or degradation) should be consistent over the entire cutting bed. If you can cut okay on the left side, but not on the right side, then you probably have an alignment issue.Josh Creswell wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 I am getting close to needing a new tube, been running on mine over 2 years. Tried cutting some mirrored acrylic tonight and couldn't get through it on the far right side of it even going over it twice. I am going to clean my mirrors and lens tomorrow, see if that helps but I'm sure it's time. Where is the best place to buy a replacement from? Do I need to buy a new power supply at the same time? Thanks
Everyday I'm learning 
60w Red and Black Chinese Laser
700mmx500mm TR
Flatbed rotary
RD V8.01.18
Windows 7
Josh
			
			
			60w Red and Black Chinese Laser
700mmx500mm TR
Flatbed rotary
RD V8.01.18
Windows 7
Josh
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				Brenda Lung
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I'm curious about replacing the power supply, too.  My tube seems to be diminishing.  Although, I was trying to cut through 1/8" birch and it was ok up until about minute 6 and then it just diminished to a whisper.  If I let the tube sit a little, it would come back.  This is just on the cut side.  The engraving side is fine.  I'm running a job now that was all day yesterday and today on engrave/scan, and it's fine.  But, cutting through the pressboard is not working.  Is it safer to replace the power supply with a new tube or is this overkill?
            
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
				
			
			
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				Pete Cyr
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If you replace the power supply with the one rated for your system there is no risk (except hooking it up correctly). 
Sounds like your power supply may be failing - a bad tube will be bad beginning to end when cutting/engraving. Although it may not be as evident when engraving since most engrave a lower power than they cut.
if you have issue in a particular spot on the bed you may have an alignment issue.
If you get to a spot and can't cut....power off...wait...resume in the same spot and you can cut that is an indication of the power supply going bad.
I have had them quit at the end of a job such that one day the system works as expected..the next day it did not work at all.
            
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
				Sounds like your power supply may be failing - a bad tube will be bad beginning to end when cutting/engraving. Although it may not be as evident when engraving since most engrave a lower power than they cut.
if you have issue in a particular spot on the bed you may have an alignment issue.
If you get to a spot and can't cut....power off...wait...resume in the same spot and you can cut that is an indication of the power supply going bad.
I have had them quit at the end of a job such that one day the system works as expected..the next day it did not work at all.
Location - VA
Equipment - Boss Laser 1630
Power - 100W
Laser Bed Size - 16" x 30"
Home Position - TR
Full RDWorks Version - v8.01.18
First name - Pete
			
			
			Equipment - Boss Laser 1630
Power - 100W
Laser Bed Size - 16" x 30"
Home Position - TR
Full RDWorks Version - v8.01.18
First name - Pete
- Ian Bell
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- Location: Bangor, N. Ireland
Rather than create a new thread as my query is the same as the original message ....
I observe that I am now frequently having to increase the output power and/or decrease the feedrate on my cuts, it is not dependent on the positiuon on my bed.
M<y machine is an 80w chinese variant, i'm looking for advice:
Do I need to change the tube AND the power supply
Advice on tube selection UK
            
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
				I observe that I am now frequently having to increase the output power and/or decrease the feedrate on my cuts, it is not dependent on the positiuon on my bed.
M<y machine is an 80w chinese variant, i'm looking for advice:
Do I need to change the tube AND the power supply
Advice on tube selection UK
Location:             Bangor
Country: N. Ireland
Nickname: Ian
Laser Machine: Red/Blk Chinese import (Redsail clone ?)
Power: 80w
Bed Size: 500x700mm
Home: TR
Status: operational
RDWorks Version: V8.01.22
Windows Version: 10
			
			
			Country: N. Ireland
Nickname: Ian
Laser Machine: Red/Blk Chinese import (Redsail clone ?)
Power: 80w
Bed Size: 500x700mm
Home: TR
Status: operational
RDWorks Version: V8.01.22
Windows Version: 10
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				Pete Cyr
- Posts: 1964
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- RDWorks Version: v8.01.18
- Ruida Controller: RDC6442
- Windows Version: Win 10
- Accessories: roller rotary attachment
I would suspect your tube is it is close to 5years old thereabouts.
Typically, power supplies work or they do not ...they don't fade.
Location - VA
Equipment - Boss Laser 1630
Power - 100W
Laser Bed Size - 16" x 30"
Home Position - TR
Full RDWorks Version - v8.01.18
First name - Pete
			
			
			Equipment - Boss Laser 1630
Power - 100W
Laser Bed Size - 16" x 30"
Home Position - TR
Full RDWorks Version - v8.01.18
First name - Pete
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				Dave Vigness
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Kicking an old thread, but you might be having / had the same problem that just arose on my new 80W China Red - COOLING !
My 80W shipped with a B grade EFR F2 tube. Spec says 2 - 5 L/min cooling. Thier wonderful pump and in line flow switch reduced the water flow to 1.1 L/min. As the tube warmed up, the lasing mirrors in the tube got out of adjustment and no more beam. My tube just recently ate itself.
CHECK YOUR FLOW !
Just by pulling the in line switch I got the flow up to just below the 2.0 mark. Removing the excess tubing wrapped around the tube by the tech to lazy to cut the excess off reduced the friction loss enough to get me to 2.2. My new flow sensor is a pressure switch on a T, not an in line piece of junk.
As soon as the pond pumps go on sale this spring, a new pump is on the list !
            
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
				
			
			
			My 80W shipped with a B grade EFR F2 tube. Spec says 2 - 5 L/min cooling. Thier wonderful pump and in line flow switch reduced the water flow to 1.1 L/min. As the tube warmed up, the lasing mirrors in the tube got out of adjustment and no more beam. My tube just recently ate itself.
CHECK YOUR FLOW !
Just by pulling the in line switch I got the flow up to just below the 2.0 mark. Removing the excess tubing wrapped around the tube by the tech to lazy to cut the excess off reduced the friction loss enough to get me to 2.2. My new flow sensor is a pressure switch on a T, not an in line piece of junk.
As soon as the pond pumps go on sale this spring, a new pump is on the list !

