50W CO2 Laser - Laser Tube not firing

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Matthias Lechner
Posts: 5
Joined: Wed Jul 17, 2019
Location: Berlin
Country: Germany
Nickname: Matze
Laser Machine Make or Type: 50W Laser Engraver - Blue China Machine
Laser Power: 50W
Laser Bed Size: 12 x 19
Home Position: TL
RDWorks Version: 8.01.18
Windows Version: 7

Dear forum,

Since around 2 weeks I own a 50W CO2 Laser machine.
Unfortunately the machine is still not working yet.
The laser tube is not firing.

What I did so far:

01 Laser test with "Pulse" button
02 Light emitting test
03 Power supply test
04 Ampere Meter installation and test
05 Install new PSU (Power Supply Unit)
06 Laser test with "Pulse" button
07 Light emitting test

The next step will be to install a new Laser Tube.
Hopefully this will help.

Today, I made a video and launched it on Youttube (https://youtu.be/-W-uIkuootA).
I tried to make my steps visible. Any advice which might help me to solve the issue is very much appreciated!

Best regards
Matthias
Pete Cyr
Posts: 1964
Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2016
Location: Suffolk Virginia
Country: United States
Laser Machine Make or Type: Boss 1630
Laser Power: 100w
Laser Bed Size: 16"x30"
Home Position: TR
Control Software: RDWORKS
RDWorks Version: v8.01.18
Ruida Controller: RDC6442
Windows Version: Win 10
Accessories: roller rotary attachment

Have you checked all the interlocks?
Location - VA
Equipment - Boss Laser 1630
Power - 100W
Laser Bed Size - 16" x 30"
Home Position - TR
Full RDWorks Version - v8.01.18
First name - Pete
Matthias Lechner
Posts: 5
Joined: Wed Jul 17, 2019
Location: Berlin
Country: Germany
Nickname: Matze
Laser Machine Make or Type: 50W Laser Engraver - Blue China Machine
Laser Power: 50W
Laser Bed Size: 12 x 19
Home Position: TL
RDWorks Version: 8.01.18
Windows Version: 7

Dear Pete,

thanks for your advice. I am a laser newbie and currently trying to understand the machine.
Due to another post (https://www.cnczone.com/forums/general- ... laser.html) the following steps are suggested:
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1. Does everything else work except the laser (e.g. the axes move)? If not, it could be that your eStop switch (the big red button) is broken.
2. Are you sure that your power supply and laser tube are wired correctly? Especially the power supply, as it seems like each manufacturer uses slightly different wiring connections.
3. Does the laser fire when you use the "test" button?
4. Could your water flow sensor be broken? The 50W blue Chinese machines have a water flow sensor attached to the water tubing that will stop the machine from firing the laser.
5. Are you sure that your power supply is matched properly to your laser tube? If not, then it might require higher or lower power settings than your previous unit to actually fire the tube. On a related note, keep in mind that laser tubes have a minimum strike voltage required to actually activate the laser. On my 50W unit I need to use at least 10% power in RDWorks for the laser to fire.
6. In RDWorks, is the color/layer of the objects that you are trying to cut/etch have their "Output" setting set to "Yes"?[/list]
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A trouble shooting guide (for the K40 Laser) is on https://k40laser.se/diy-how-to/no-fire-troubleshooting/
--> For my issue (Laser not firing at all) they suggest these things to try:
– Make sure you have grounded the machine properly
– Check all internal connections for breaks, bad crimps or loose cables.
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My next steps will be then:
- test laser with PSU "test" button
- check the water flow sensor
- Check all internal connections for breaks, bad crimps or loose cables

best regards
Matze
Pete Cyr
Posts: 1964
Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2016
Location: Suffolk Virginia
Country: United States
Laser Machine Make or Type: Boss 1630
Laser Power: 100w
Laser Bed Size: 16"x30"
Home Position: TR
Control Software: RDWORKS
RDWorks Version: v8.01.18
Ruida Controller: RDC6442
Windows Version: Win 10
Accessories: roller rotary attachment

You are certainly doing your homework. I am sure with your approach you figure it out.
Location - VA
Equipment - Boss Laser 1630
Power - 100W
Laser Bed Size - 16" x 30"
Home Position - TR
Full RDWorks Version - v8.01.18
First name - Pete
Matthias Lechner
Posts: 5
Joined: Wed Jul 17, 2019
Location: Berlin
Country: Germany
Nickname: Matze
Laser Machine Make or Type: 50W Laser Engraver - Blue China Machine
Laser Power: 50W
Laser Bed Size: 12 x 19
Home Position: TL
RDWorks Version: 8.01.18
Windows Version: 7

Hello Guys... and Ladies,

first of all... The Laser is working :D
Yesterday I installed a new Laser Tube. And the first "firing" showed that the laser was emitting the light in the right color range.
After adjusting the mirrors correctly I could satisfied myself that the laser is also able to cut material. Yuhuu I am so happy.
Later on I will provide a Youtube video what I did (Installation and adjusting of tube, correcting the mirrors, doing the tests).

Best
Matze
Pete Cyr
Posts: 1964
Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2016
Location: Suffolk Virginia
Country: United States
Laser Machine Make or Type: Boss 1630
Laser Power: 100w
Laser Bed Size: 16"x30"
Home Position: TR
Control Software: RDWORKS
RDWorks Version: v8.01.18
Ruida Controller: RDC6442
Windows Version: Win 10
Accessories: roller rotary attachment

Glad you got it working -sorry you had to replace the tube
Location - VA
Equipment - Boss Laser 1630
Power - 100W
Laser Bed Size - 16" x 30"
Home Position - TR
Full RDWorks Version - v8.01.18
First name - Pete
Doug Fisher
Posts: 206
Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2016
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Country: USA
Laser Machine Make or Type: Ke Hui KH-7050
Laser Power: 80W EFR F2
Laser Bed Size: 700x500
Home Position: TR
Control Software: LIGHTBURN
RDWorks Version: v8.01.18 & 8.01.33
Ruida Controller: RDC6442
Windows Version: 10
Accessories: Ruida RDC6442G EC controller, 2" lens, S&A CW5000 chiller, chuck type of rotary attachment, Russ' DoHickey (sp?), mA meter, a growing collection of tools and oddities to keep it running!

I am glad you solved the problem. Hopefully the seller provided the new tube at no cost to you since this was a new machine.
Matthias Lechner
Posts: 5
Joined: Wed Jul 17, 2019
Location: Berlin
Country: Germany
Nickname: Matze
Laser Machine Make or Type: 50W Laser Engraver - Blue China Machine
Laser Power: 50W
Laser Bed Size: 12 x 19
Home Position: TL
RDWorks Version: 8.01.18
Windows Version: 7

Yes, the seller refunded my money I spent on the spare tube & the spare power supply unit.
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